Rhok On

Yes, I was bored. I went and got this last week. It only took a few different days to get the mobs. I'll make an exception and keep it in my gun rack. ;-)

Photo Trivia: Pet Talents Gone Wild

See anything wrong with my pet talents? Does it look good or bad?

More on the PTR Bestial Wrath Change

The new PTR tooltip reads:

“Increases all damage you deal by 10% and while your pet is under the effects of Bestial Wrath, you also go into a rage causing 10% additional damage and reducing mana costs of all spells by 20% for 10 sec (down from 18). While enraged, you do not feel pity or remorse or fear and you cannot be stopped unless killed.”

So the new spreadsheet results are showing a +2% total DPS increase for BM hunters. It's still well below SV and MM though.








More math:

Hunter
Beast Mastery

• The Beast Within: The duration of this talent has been reduced to 10 seconds. In addition, hunters with this talent will do 10% additional damage at all times.
• Bestial Wrath: The duration of this talent has been reduced to 10 seconds.

So, this is a little bit more info. It's unclear if it would be +10% at all times and +10% on top of that when it's active. As I already did the math below, if it's just 10% all the time it ends up being a 1% damage buff for BM hunters but a big nerf for them in PvP. If it's +10% and +10% it will be a little more.

Nuts and Bolts of Beast Change Math for 3.2 PTR Build 10433

Nuts I say!

Hunter
Beast Mastery

• The Beast Within now lasts 10 sec (Down from 18 sec) but now also increases all damage you deal by 10%. (Apparently at all time ... Would have to check in-game)
• Bestial Wrath now lasts 10 sec. (Down from 18 sec)

If this is true then BM is dead as an option for PvP arena folks. It's all Survival. That's nuts.

Bolts?

If it really is +10% of the hunter's damage -- all the time -- what does that mean for BM as a viable raiding spec? Well. Let's look at the stratospheric best possible gear ever and most ideal buffs, situation, etc-everything numbers right now:

Best BM Template:

Total DPS: 9457,14
Hunter DPS: 5455,90
Pet DPS: 4001,24
AP: 9651
Crit: 57,80%
Hit: 100,00%
ArP: 566
Shot Queue: KS/Sp/MS/AS/SS
Wait Delay: 0,00s
Spec: 54/12/5
Race: Orc
Pet: Devilsaur

Best MM Template:

Total DPS: 10781,46
Hunter DPS: 9530,54
Pet DPS: 1250,93
AP: 8978
Crit: 58,58%
Hit: 100,00%
ArP: 1230
Shot Queue: KS/Sp/CS/AiS/SilS/SS
Wait Delay: 0,00s
Spec: 7/57/7
Race: Orc
Pet: Wolf

Best SV Template:

Total DPS: 10106,81
Hunter DPS: 8650,25
Pet DPS: 1456,56
AP: 11676
Crit: 77,33%
Hit: 100,00%
ArP: 526
Shot Queue: KS/ES/BA/Sp/AiS/SS
Wait Delay: 0,00s
Spec: 2/18/51
Race: Orc
Pet: Wolf

EDITED TO ADD: So now we do some math. We can't just add 10% to the BM hunter's dps.

The loss of 8 seconds of +10% damage from normal Beast Within needs to be accounted for. It doesn't sound like a lot, but take Longevity, the BW Glyph, and the original hunter BW and calculate its damage boost uptime over ten minutes. Then multiply that uptime percentage by the 10% to see what the base damage boost is. Then do something similar for the loss of pet damage from a reduced uptime of its Bestial Wrath. Here are my calculations:


























So what does this mean for BM hunter dps in ideal conditions? Well, their pet does a little less damage. They do a little more. The combination of the two do an extra 1% damage.

So BM is still far far below MM and SV. Nuts. But what can you expect if they are completely redesigning our class from scratch? Honestly, I'm surprised they're making any changes. What's most surprising is that this looks like this is just a big nerf to BM hunters in arenas. I don't understand what the heck they're thinking.




EDITED TO ADD: New News => New Math.